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Mark Pierre Vorkosigan / "Peter Kane" ([personal profile] jacksonian) wrote in [community profile] barrayar2016-01-22 09:49 pm

I am junking up this beautiful community with this junk

All the other starters are so beautiful but instead I'm coming in and ruining everything with this useless post with this sad sack
Comment to this post and I will write you something
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-23 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[As long as Gregor is privy to both halves, he is not going to be the one to insist Miles dismantle that wall. Who's he to tell someone else how to cope with their life? Or in this case, lives.

Although now he has to think of what Greg Vorthys would know of Miles Vorkosigan himself and whether they'd ever even met... Ugh. He shoots a quick thought over to Miles, lightning-fast, even as he answers: How much do you want me to have known you? Put the squeeze on him or make it easy? Gregor's inclined to the latter by character but that's why he's not a tactician.]


Long lost brother, [he repeats slowly, eyes migrating between the two.] That would be the Betan way of things, wouldn't it? Well. It's certainly better than finding a villain. I didn't want to cast aspersions on your evaluation, but it was a surprise to me to hear, given what I know of Lord Vorkosigan.
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[personal profile] dendarii 2016-01-23 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Easy, absolutely, comes Miles' reply instantly. He knows something of our relationship - I believe his intention was to replace me entirely. Breezy mental commentary, that, not lingering on the fact that his clone probably wanted to kill him.

Naismith folds his arms over his chest, eyebrow quirking upwards. ]


Should I get some coffee started? Tea? You two look as though you need a moment.

[ He settles on a faintly annoyed expression, something like jealousy. Ah, the good ol' Vor club in action. Something like that. ]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
[Replace him entirely? That makes Gregor's hackles go up and he has to remind himself that he agrees with Miles that mercy is always the better way. There's no way to replace you, he thinks over at Miles fiercely for a moment, before managing to shut that down and center himself.

Acting. Right. Gregor is half-tempted to toss the whole thing out the window and tell him he knows he's lying-- actually, wait, why doesn't he do that? No reason he can't believe Naismith is a clone and this one. He just doesn't think he can sustain this level of twistiness for no good reason that he can see. He's not like Miles; he doesn't like to play games. He already feels like his skin is going to crawl at the thought of pretending to the closeness he has with Miles with someone he's never even met before, someone who probably wants to kill him.

No. No. But no telling Miles in advance, either. This is something Gregor will take care of himself, without interference. He uses the excuse of needing to be able to focus to narrow their link down to a trickle, a note of sincere apology at that passing through, even so, and looks straight at the clone, eyes dark and intent.]


Yes, we do. You know we'd have my circumstances to discuss. [As a supposed deserter.] But don't let us put you out, ah, Admiral. We'll go into the living room.

[With all the bland implacability of an unstated order, directed at the clone.]
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[personal profile] dendarii 2016-01-24 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
[ What on earth is Gregor doing? He manages to refrain from giving his Emperor a sharp look - but he flutters worriedly at his end of the link, not liking the feeling of it narrowing. Dammit. If anything happens, he's going to be right here.

On the outside, though, Naismith just nods. ]


Tea it is then. I'll go get it ready.

[ And with one last glance at the two of them, he heads to the kitchen to prep tea. Nervously. ]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
[Nice to make him nervous for once instead of the other way around, Gregor thinks uncharitably, though not meanly. But Miles didn't swear to a figurehead and Gregor is going to make damn sure of that.

He nods back, an acknowledgement of him as de facto guard in the other room, but doesn't care personally about putting himself in harm's way save for that it would devastate Miles to get injured on his watch. But that cannot and is not Gregor's primary concern here.

If this is truly Miles's younger brother Mark, by whatever way he was made he is one of Gregor's subjects should he choose to take up that mantle. That choice must be offered to him, independent of Miles. So he leads Miles's brother, however he chooses to identify himself, into the living room with perfect carriage and the Imperial reserve descending down on him further with each step.

By the time he's seated himself on the couch (that infernal couch), the nod he dispenses this time to the opposite chair is a tiny inclination of permission.]


Please sit. I'm sure you must be very confused, and I'd like to clear things up for you.

[He cannot bring himself to call him Miles. It is distasteful in the extreme.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
[Goodness, that's the most he's sounded like Miles yet. It's very eerie. And disorienting. If Gregor closed his eyes and reopened them, he could reset his whole perspective, almost. Except...

Except for that body language. As far from him as possible, instead of eager, conspiratorial, on the edge of his seat. Gregor wonders how scared he is, if he's scared at all. He has no clue of his background, but surely he must be at least a little panicked to be caught unprepared like this, in a different century on a different planet with those most able to see through him. Gregor is still wary of him, but sympathetic nonetheless.

He lets the words rest in the air for a moment, dark and somber. He pushes past them without acknowledging it, saying what he needs to say instead. Gregor finds he has no more patience to pretend; too many sour memories with it.]


One of the abilities I was given on arrival was a telepathic link with those who are sworn to me, [he says plainly, in a low tone to match his, furtive.] Which includes all of Barrayar. So I know that you are not Miles Vorkosigan. Just as I know that Naismith isn't, either.

[A beat before, with utmost seriousness, gaze steady and holding his:]

I would like to offer you a chance to be someone else.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
[That is also very Miles, to refuse to back down from the lies right in the clinch of it, when they are most important to hold onto. Just as he had earlier when faced with his clone-brother.

Gregor watches him for a few long seconds in open evaluation, and then keeps talking as if he'd said nothing, laying out his proposal. His voice is even, calm; his posture remains upright and unguarded, no trace of wariness, though inside he certainly is feeling it.]


We have no precedence on Barrayar for what to do with a clone of one of our own, legally speaking. Conveniently, as Emperor I can do whatever I wish. From my perspective, it's up to you: you can continue as yourself in whatever capacity you have been, or you can abandon the name Miles and become a separate Barrayaran subject, whether a Vorkosigan or not, as you liked.

Of course, to do so, you would have to swear to serve Us, in all sincerity; and swear too that you would not attack anyone else sworn to Us. In return We would accord you all the protections and privileges of any of Our other liege-sworn, as an equal to them. And you would feel that telepathic link for yourself, to gauge Our honesty in that.

[He doesn't try to sell him on anything-- he imagines that like Gregor, he must have had enough of being manipulated-- he just offers it out to him, to take or to reject.]

If you refuse, I will continue pretending to Admiral Naismith and all the world on your behalf. I will not box you in. But-- [His gaze turns to steel.] This is a one time offer. Please think on it before responding.

[Gregor is not going to be taken advantage of again, oh no. These oaths in sincerity would not be breakable, after all; he wouldn't be able to attack any of them. But at the same time, Gregor will not give up on mercy, either, and means every inch of this offer.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
[He should find this satisfying, or a relief, to have broken through at last and dispensed with the pretense. Certainly it's what he's after. But instead it is... painful. Excruciatingly painful.

Gregor finds his reserve dropping halfway himself-- impossible not to, with a look like that on Miles's face, and however steeled he is against being manipulated himself he is not and can never be heartless. He can tell this is a wounded person, can only imagine what his life has been like on Jackson's Whole, for that must be where he's from. And none of that has to do with Miles. He aches to try to give him a life undefined by that, some wish fulfillment for himself, perhaps.

His voice softens, truly gentle.]
You would swear obedience as much as I would swear protection. And you would get a look in mine, too. The link is truly neutral; there is no hierarchy to it. You can seal yourself off whenever you wish, once you learn how, and I couldn't force my way in.

But I really will be as vulnerable to you that way as you are to me. We both have to give all, or get nothing.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
[He could say what his other power is, but that runs into the same problem, and reveals Gregor's trap that he'd laid for him besides. (A trap for his benefit, honestly, but he's not sure he'll see it that way without feeling the sincerity of it in his mind.) In any case it doesn't solve the problem. It addresses the symptom and not the root.

That reaction is so impossible to miss, and sweeps through Gregor in an echo, all compassion and sadness for him. Pushing him to take his own risk, as he's asking the man before him to take no less.]


I have no good answer for you, [he says quietly, spreading a hand open palm-up and showing it to him.] Except that it grieves me to imagine you abandoned, when I have owed you so much. Just by existing you are owed this from me, from Barrayar.

I cannot erase whatever has happened to you until this point. All I can do is offer you a new way forward. From the first second I saw you, I could not think of you as Miles. [And that is nothing on his acting ability.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
[Study more. That whole statement gives Gregor the shivers internally. He'll pull that out later and be properly horrified, that all of his terrible imaginings are probably right.

But for right now he remains on task, leaning forward, bracing his elbows on his knees, hands loosely twined together.]


So far I don't think anyone has asked your opinion on whether you'd like to be Jacksonian or Barrayaran, [he says quite simply.] If you accept, you would be. And I would owe you quite a bit indeed. Wouldn't I.

[Because oh, Gregor's mind can go some dark places and if even a crumb of that is true, he would not be able to sleep if he did not at least attempt this offer.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
[Gregor does not often deal with Jacksonians directly, that's for sure, but he has been briefed in it as he's been briefed on every other aspect of intergalactic diplomacy. Time to employ that lesson, then. He's alive to the nuance of that word, to Jacksonians.]

It changes the whole game, if you were Our loyal subject retroactively. You've done nothing against Us yet. If you were my liege-sworn, you would have suffered dearly in Our name, if I've any guess. Suffered until you could come back to Barrayar, no plot raised against us-- neutralizing the plot by your very allegiance, honestly. Your whole life would have been in service. I would owe you... a very large blank check. To be called upon at will.

[It's laughable, honestly. Gregor owes all of Barrayar a blank check, value infinite. This man would be getting no special treatment. But he doesn't imagine he can convince a Jacksonian of how that works, of the true character of loyalty; best to speak to him specifically, to his individual debt to this one individual hypothetical subject.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
[What he's missing here is, of course, that Gregor owes the same thing to everyone else. He can't drain the Treasury without betraying all the rest. But what he can do for this man alone, without infringing on any other debts, he will do absolutely.

It seems an easy thing to promise-- a light one, to pay some recompense to someone who is surely owed it by the universe.]


Quite simply, I don't want to. If I wanted the debt eliminated, I do have liege-sworn here; they would kill you for me at a word, or torture you for the information I wanted. [This he doesn't say lightly; he sounds sober. But there's no use not acknowledging it, for all he'd obviously never enact it. To make Miles or Aral do that to their own kin... That is not in Gregor, even in his nightmares.] Much messier to do it this way, don't you think, and for no reason? No... I'm not that sort of person. Not that sort of Emperor.

If you're meant to replace Miles, you must know something of me. When have I destroyed anyone, even enemies?
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
... Hmm. Komarran dissidents, then?

[Gregor sounds very mild. That's an informative tidbit to give him. But no, now is not the time to fight propaganda and indoctrination. That is another battle, one Aral does not need him to wage for him.]

Never mind, beside the point. Surely you can look at basic facts of my behavior. Do you remember the incident with the Cetagandan forces around Vervain? That was my first command; I ordered even Aral to let me have my way. And when they were beaten, we did not pursue. There is no grace in shaming a defeated enemy. I have no wish to shame you. On the contrary... if you were to be in my service, I'd want you built up. It makes no sense, to diminish those who act for you. Illogical and cruel both.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
[He shakes his head.]

I can't. Liege relationships only. I could not prove it to you if I wanted to. If you want this deal, it will have to be a leap of faith-- for both of us.

I'm well aware you're likely meant as my assassin. [He sounds easy about this.] I have so many of them.

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