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Mark Pierre Vorkosigan / "Peter Kane" ([personal profile] jacksonian) wrote in [community profile] barrayar2016-01-22 09:49 pm

I am junking up this beautiful community with this junk

All the other starters are so beautiful but instead I'm coming in and ruining everything with this useless post with this sad sack
Comment to this post and I will write you something
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
[That is also very Miles, to refuse to back down from the lies right in the clinch of it, when they are most important to hold onto. Just as he had earlier when faced with his clone-brother.

Gregor watches him for a few long seconds in open evaluation, and then keeps talking as if he'd said nothing, laying out his proposal. His voice is even, calm; his posture remains upright and unguarded, no trace of wariness, though inside he certainly is feeling it.]


We have no precedence on Barrayar for what to do with a clone of one of our own, legally speaking. Conveniently, as Emperor I can do whatever I wish. From my perspective, it's up to you: you can continue as yourself in whatever capacity you have been, or you can abandon the name Miles and become a separate Barrayaran subject, whether a Vorkosigan or not, as you liked.

Of course, to do so, you would have to swear to serve Us, in all sincerity; and swear too that you would not attack anyone else sworn to Us. In return We would accord you all the protections and privileges of any of Our other liege-sworn, as an equal to them. And you would feel that telepathic link for yourself, to gauge Our honesty in that.

[He doesn't try to sell him on anything-- he imagines that like Gregor, he must have had enough of being manipulated-- he just offers it out to him, to take or to reject.]

If you refuse, I will continue pretending to Admiral Naismith and all the world on your behalf. I will not box you in. But-- [His gaze turns to steel.] This is a one time offer. Please think on it before responding.

[Gregor is not going to be taken advantage of again, oh no. These oaths in sincerity would not be breakable, after all; he wouldn't be able to attack any of them. But at the same time, Gregor will not give up on mercy, either, and means every inch of this offer.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
[He should find this satisfying, or a relief, to have broken through at last and dispensed with the pretense. Certainly it's what he's after. But instead it is... painful. Excruciatingly painful.

Gregor finds his reserve dropping halfway himself-- impossible not to, with a look like that on Miles's face, and however steeled he is against being manipulated himself he is not and can never be heartless. He can tell this is a wounded person, can only imagine what his life has been like on Jackson's Whole, for that must be where he's from. And none of that has to do with Miles. He aches to try to give him a life undefined by that, some wish fulfillment for himself, perhaps.

His voice softens, truly gentle.]
You would swear obedience as much as I would swear protection. And you would get a look in mine, too. The link is truly neutral; there is no hierarchy to it. You can seal yourself off whenever you wish, once you learn how, and I couldn't force my way in.

But I really will be as vulnerable to you that way as you are to me. We both have to give all, or get nothing.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
[He could say what his other power is, but that runs into the same problem, and reveals Gregor's trap that he'd laid for him besides. (A trap for his benefit, honestly, but he's not sure he'll see it that way without feeling the sincerity of it in his mind.) In any case it doesn't solve the problem. It addresses the symptom and not the root.

That reaction is so impossible to miss, and sweeps through Gregor in an echo, all compassion and sadness for him. Pushing him to take his own risk, as he's asking the man before him to take no less.]


I have no good answer for you, [he says quietly, spreading a hand open palm-up and showing it to him.] Except that it grieves me to imagine you abandoned, when I have owed you so much. Just by existing you are owed this from me, from Barrayar.

I cannot erase whatever has happened to you until this point. All I can do is offer you a new way forward. From the first second I saw you, I could not think of you as Miles. [And that is nothing on his acting ability.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
[Study more. That whole statement gives Gregor the shivers internally. He'll pull that out later and be properly horrified, that all of his terrible imaginings are probably right.

But for right now he remains on task, leaning forward, bracing his elbows on his knees, hands loosely twined together.]


So far I don't think anyone has asked your opinion on whether you'd like to be Jacksonian or Barrayaran, [he says quite simply.] If you accept, you would be. And I would owe you quite a bit indeed. Wouldn't I.

[Because oh, Gregor's mind can go some dark places and if even a crumb of that is true, he would not be able to sleep if he did not at least attempt this offer.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
[Gregor does not often deal with Jacksonians directly, that's for sure, but he has been briefed in it as he's been briefed on every other aspect of intergalactic diplomacy. Time to employ that lesson, then. He's alive to the nuance of that word, to Jacksonians.]

It changes the whole game, if you were Our loyal subject retroactively. You've done nothing against Us yet. If you were my liege-sworn, you would have suffered dearly in Our name, if I've any guess. Suffered until you could come back to Barrayar, no plot raised against us-- neutralizing the plot by your very allegiance, honestly. Your whole life would have been in service. I would owe you... a very large blank check. To be called upon at will.

[It's laughable, honestly. Gregor owes all of Barrayar a blank check, value infinite. This man would be getting no special treatment. But he doesn't imagine he can convince a Jacksonian of how that works, of the true character of loyalty; best to speak to him specifically, to his individual debt to this one individual hypothetical subject.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
[What he's missing here is, of course, that Gregor owes the same thing to everyone else. He can't drain the Treasury without betraying all the rest. But what he can do for this man alone, without infringing on any other debts, he will do absolutely.

It seems an easy thing to promise-- a light one, to pay some recompense to someone who is surely owed it by the universe.]


Quite simply, I don't want to. If I wanted the debt eliminated, I do have liege-sworn here; they would kill you for me at a word, or torture you for the information I wanted. [This he doesn't say lightly; he sounds sober. But there's no use not acknowledging it, for all he'd obviously never enact it. To make Miles or Aral do that to their own kin... That is not in Gregor, even in his nightmares.] Much messier to do it this way, don't you think, and for no reason? No... I'm not that sort of person. Not that sort of Emperor.

If you're meant to replace Miles, you must know something of me. When have I destroyed anyone, even enemies?
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
... Hmm. Komarran dissidents, then?

[Gregor sounds very mild. That's an informative tidbit to give him. But no, now is not the time to fight propaganda and indoctrination. That is another battle, one Aral does not need him to wage for him.]

Never mind, beside the point. Surely you can look at basic facts of my behavior. Do you remember the incident with the Cetagandan forces around Vervain? That was my first command; I ordered even Aral to let me have my way. And when they were beaten, we did not pursue. There is no grace in shaming a defeated enemy. I have no wish to shame you. On the contrary... if you were to be in my service, I'd want you built up. It makes no sense, to diminish those who act for you. Illogical and cruel both.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
[He shakes his head.]

I can't. Liege relationships only. I could not prove it to you if I wanted to. If you want this deal, it will have to be a leap of faith-- for both of us.

I'm well aware you're likely meant as my assassin. [He sounds easy about this.] I have so many of them.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, [he concedes, nodding.] Less dangerous in the leap, certainly. But in the fall...

I must catch you. Now and forever after, you would not be alone. I must be there, always; I would owe you it, to stand between you and all the rest. That is the danger, for me. Anything you did, I would be culpable for, whether it was in my name or not.

[He must at least understand the legal ramifications, with the vicious cannibalistic legal system of Jackson's Whole. But he thinks too it must be a tempting offer, to have a legal protection that is irrespective of all else, wholesale, in a way no Deal could ever be. Barrayarans do not renege; that is the whole source of Gregor's difficulties in telling everyone here he is a deserter. There is no mustering out.]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
[Miles's brother is imagining Gregor finding a use for him, as if that's foremost in Gregor's thoughts. His heart lurches with this agreement, like freefall rushing on him all at once, gut jumping up to his throat, because he understands the magnitude of what this agreement will mean in a way that the one swearing does not. He thinks it's all advantage for Gregor, that this is unequal.

But Gregor had been groomed to reign by a man afraid he would grow into someone too comfortable with his power, with no sense of responsibility to check it, and so he has, if anything, an overabundance of it. An active fear that he will misuse it. And so he feels here: he is taking on another weight, another link in the Imperium, but this one he is doing very personally, very deliberately, a weight he is placing on his own shoulders. He'd practically manipulated him into it and he makes no mistake about that. Hadn't even told Miles his intent, hadn't spoken to either of Miles's brother's parents first.

This is all on him. His fate from here forward is Gregor's to ensure or fail. He stands, slowly, everything about him cast in somber responsibility, a man who is not well-represented on vids; all of his gravitas is in person, stifling the air.]


Tell me if there is a name you wish to take, or if you will decide it later. Kneel, and put your hands between mine.

[I don't know what I'm agreeing to, either. You could be anyone. You could hurt me very badly by this going sour, do you know that? Not physically, but mentally. To feel your anguish at being tied to me every day would be... an exquisite torture. I think I really would go mad, listening to you think me a monster at every moment. Because I would start to think it must be true.

You think this is all you taking a leap. I am right there at the cliff with you. Please prove me right. I must do this, for you, for Miles, for Count and Countess Vorkosigan who are all owed so much from me, even moreso than you, if you can fathom that.

Jump with me.
]
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
[If there is one thing Gregor will take pleasure in in this whole farcical affair, it's getting to prove his fears wrong. There is nothing, in fact, to fear from Gregor at all. He is quite the simplest to face of all the Barrayarans here.

It saddens him but does not surprise him to hear him nameless. He knows Miles had tried to convince him of Mark Pierre, but Gregor is committed to his earlier avowal that he would not push him to be anyone, not even a Vorkosigan. He can be Gregor's vassal first and figure out all the rest later, at his own leisure, a gift Gregor has always wanted to give for never having had it himself.

He widens the link to Miles enough just to shoot off one thought, in discrete, clipped packets: You're going to feel something from me, but for God's sake, Miles, stay in the kitchen. This is very delicate and it is going exactly the way I want.

That done, he gently encapsulates the man's hands with his own, like he's holding a scared bird between them. This oath is one he'll have to make up on the fly, unique as it is, but he doesn't hesitate, the words steady and smooth.]


Very well. Repeat after me: I swear the obedience and loyalty of a liegeman directly to Gregor Vorbarra, Emperor of the Barrayaran Imperium, in all sincerity and faith. I further pledge not to harm any of his other liege-sworn, excepting in self-defense, and that I claim all rights and privileges owed any Barrayaran subject, henceforth.
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[personal profile] vorbarra 2016-01-24 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
[It is uncanny, and further disturbing, and he will remember it later but he has no time to think on it now.

Gregor says nothing: the lock of a bound oath clicks over heavy and solid in his mind-- ah, so it was sincere after all, for all that blank repetition. He feels the link blossom in his mind, each petal unfurling one by one and equally slowly he sinks down to his knees without releasing his hands. With this done, with his safety net in place, he can dispense with all the lies and traps. He can be honest.

He lets out a shaky breath, feeling like he'd just sprinted for ten minutes straight, and lets Miles's brother get his first feel of Gregor's mind. He reaches out with light tendrils of sadness, of acceptance, of curiosity for who he is. But most of all he lets him feel his basic altruism, that intense aversion for violence and cruelty, his bone-deep loathing for atrocity, his wistfulness that he could change someone's life for the better.

That he sees him in front of him, eye to eye, and receives him.]

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